Wednesday, July 30, 2014

Kazuya-Hen Chapters 61-65

5 new chapters of Kazuya-Hen are now up and ready for consumption!

Thanks to Jatelion for the cleans, and to Tambur for the typesetting! I will be streaming something Akagi-related this Friday at 21:00 GMT (2:00 PM PST), and as usual, Mahjong Night is this Saturday at 22:00 GMT (3:00 PM PST).

Chapter 61
Chapter 62
Chapter 63
Chapter 64
Chapter 65

92 comments:

  1. Sasuga Fukumoto. What a twisttttt.

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  2. No review this time? I guess everyone has been busy lately. Thank you for your work, the last chapter had a lot of tension, but the revelation was a little too simple for me.

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    1. Well, Chang kinda only have a couple of seconds to think about what his next action should be, so it can't be too complex.

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  3. Thanks very much, guys!

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  4. yessssss I love this manga so much thank you!!

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  5. Really nice to have 10 chapters within the same month; keep it up guys!

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  6. Jeepers! Another 5 chapters! You guys are too fast for me. Great work

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  7. There you go. Knew you could pull through and release a few more. Thanks a lot. The pacing of this arc really is murderously slow, though.

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  8. Finally a little catharsis up in here. That bondaged Kaiji though... I bet the doujins write themselves.
    The newly revealed rule didn't feel like a big deal, though. I had just assumed that it was that way this whole time.

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  9. Thanks for the release !!
    Kaiji is a beast, seriously.

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  10. I don't see the point of Kazuya telling them that Rule now.

    Even if left to chance, It's already unlikely to be the Savior two times in a row., so assuming you are contemplating betrayal, would it really matter if there is a 33% chance to be the savior or 0%?

    Of course there is one point to it and that would be if Kazuya is actually lying here.

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    1. What he's doing is breaking their reinvigorated spirit to beat the game together. Before Kazuya told them this, they were pumped to beat the game and simply ignored their doubts. By telling them they only can be savior one more time, it means they only have one chance to betray, and the other two times their life is in the hands of someone else. This means that whoever is the savior next will seriously consider betraying in order to save themselves.

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    2. That is only correct for the second of those three rounds, tough The savior of the next round could still be the savior of the last round. And the Savior of the last round doesn't have to worry about betrayal at all

      But, i guess i can see from where you coming from. In the emotional situation they are right now it does give them some additional Stress

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    3. No, you did not fully understand the implications of the revelation.

      The Savior of the first of the last three rounds will think about what the Savior of the second round will think, namely:
      "I might be betrayed in the last round -> I have to betray now to survive."

      Therefore the Savior of the first round has to betray NOW if he wants to make sure he survives, otherwise he risks that there will be no third round at all.

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  11. Is this gonna be a thing?

    Release 5 chapters every 15 or so days?

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  12. Come on, don't burn out on me now.

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  13. Hello, I just wanted to stop by and give a big Thank You for doing this. I watched the original Anime S1 & S2 awhile ago and really liked it alot, but then kind of forgot about the series after it ended and moved onto to others, but I recently I remembered it out of the blue and started reading the Manga and am now looking forward to what happens. I sincerely appreciate your efforts, and I am sure all future readers will feel the same.

    Thanks again and work at your own pace!

    -Anon

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  14. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Eagerly awaiting Akagi updates too now!

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  15. Does the Kaiji crew have no passion anymore? There's no way you can't do better than this.

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    1. WHAT'S WITH THAT FACE
      DON'T TELL ME YOU WANT THIS SCANLATING GROUP TO ACTUALLY SCANLATE SHIT LIKE THEY SAID THEY WOULD
      YOU UNGRATEFUL, ENTITLED PARASITE
      FIGHT ME, MOTHERFUCKER

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  17. Yeah, if they must fail their classes, quit their jobs or neglect their health just to scanlate kaiji for us then they should! After all we deserve everything in this world for free and nobody can deny us anything. It's our birth right. How dare they? And those who call us entitled fucks are all fkmt krazy's devs trying to avert our eyes from the truth.

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    1. They stream games. That's what they do these days. Check their twitter and twitch, defense force. But of course, you don't give a flying fuck about whether they're ACTUALLY busy or just spending more than a fair share of their free time on something else than scanlating (i.e. being lazy shits who don't keep to the obligations they verbally created for themselves). No, your position is set into fucking STONE. You're just here to spew the typical stock response at anyone who dares say something against your infalible Internet Overlords. "HURR DURR JOBS AND CLASSES AND HEALTH, STFU YOU ENTITLED SCUM." I wasn't kidding above, that really is how you sound. None of those things adequately explain a month of no releases, buf if there was a problem, they could at least let us know about it. But there isn't one. They're uncommunicative and unmotivated to provide the service they promised to provide, and pointing that out does not, in fact, make me entitled.

      I know you don't care about valid arguments, but to insinuate that they CAN'T do it just makes you look laughable when there's hard evidence to the contrary. Think of something else, Cyber Warrior. Or just continue regurgitating the same shit over and over.

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    2. Preach it brother

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    3. They can do whatever they want with their free time. That is also part of taking care of your health - doing activities you enjoy in your free time. They can stream games. They can stare at the ceiling. Anything. If they want to, of course, they can translate Kaiji and other manga and upload it to the internet. They aren't politicians, they are allowed to break their promises and see no punishment for it. Or are you saying that you never broke a promise, or that every promise holds the same weight? They don't have to keep translating Kaiji. They don't have to release chapters every X days. They are not obliged to do so. They do not need to do so. It would be nice of them if they told us if there was any problem keeping them from releasing Kaiji, I agree, and if they plan on dropping this project it would be nice of them to tell us so as soon as possible. But that's it: it would be nice of them. They could drop from the face of the Earth never to be heard of again, and that has nothing to do with us. They don't owe us anything. Scanlation groups drop projects and dissolve every day, that is just something we have to deal with. Reading FKMT isn't a basic human right, nobody has to provide that for you even if they said they would. If they stop it now, I can't say I wouldn't resent them even a little bit, but that's just how life is. It's so nice that someone decided to do it for free, even if it's slower that we all wish it was. Or do you think I come here to see you whine? Of course I come here to see if there was an update. If you are unsatisfied go ask other scanlation groups to do Kaiji, or pay someone to do it for you, or do it yourself. Or continue to come here every month to complain, it's your life.

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    4. No, you come here to pick a goddamn fight with me. Like, really, that is genuinely what I believe right now. There is literally no other reason for you to have posted that. You have done nothing but strawman my position and patronize me. They can do whatever they want? They can be douchebags and break their promises? You don't fucking say, I didn't know that. I'm venting with my posts while also maybe trying to get some reactions from the group and the people reading this. TRYING to maybe get them to do something, TRYING to have some kind of two-way feedback. Your post is worthless and has no potential to accomplish anything. I just happened to rustle your autism, so you felt compelled to respond by pointing out obvious shit that isn't helpful to anybody.

      The thing about people is that they try to communicate with each other to change things, instead of rolling over and "putting up with it" like bitches. When you say you're gonna do something, you create an obligation for yourself - that is what the word means. People have the right to demand stuff from you when you've made an obligation. A man's word is a man's word, I don't care about varying degrees of promises. What makes FKMTkrazy different from politicians or public figures is NOT that they haven't obligated themselves to do shit, but that they won't suffer any *consequences*. And even that's not true, beacuse the consequence of them not releasing will be me complaining about it here.

      I do not at all understand what drives you to be so fanatical, but I think most people here would agree that you should stop shitting up the comments with your useless posts. I can't imagine what mental condition would cause anyone to be so ludicrously apologetic of a party in which they hold no stake.

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    5. Like seriously, is that any way to live your life, with such a defeatist attitude?

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    6. Trolls should go back to hiding under their bridge.

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  18. You don't say you're gonna do something, but then take a long-ass time to do it for no apparent/disclosed reason other than feeling like it. That's called fucking with people. Doesn't mean anyone can force you to do it, or that it isn't entirely up to you how you're goona do it, or when, or if at all. But people do have the right to shove into your face the fact that you're fucking with them, and that you can do better than that.

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    1. You're right and I'm fed up with it. Its literally just sonickrazy playing shitty ds games on twitch all month that is slowing the translation down from what I can tell (since as previously mentioned they have 0 fucking communication with the people that care about these translations aside from their little group of friends) and that is just pathetic and sad. If you're gonna stop just so you can jack around with ds games all day at least make a formal announcement so I stop checking this blog for actual translations.

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    2. Well if you don't like it, why not go on irc and talk to sonic himself.

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    3. I actually did talk to him myself once, although not regarding slow releases. He was a complete dickwad and I have no interest in talking to him again. Regardless, I highly doubt any amount of bitching on here or to sonic himself with get them to release faster. Nice to vent a bit though.

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  19. FKMTkrazy @FKMTkrazy · 12m
    I wouldn't care that much if some other group picked up Kaiji at this point.

    FKMTkrazy @FKMTkrazy · 12m
    The lack of releases is entirely my fault, and I don't claim to have a reason other than lack of motivation.

    FUCK

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  20. What some of you guys fail to realize is that your comments make it worse. Obviously there is a motivational problem by now, however telling them that they should hurry the fuck up will only increase the pressure, and unlike RL where you have some obligation, this isn't the case on the Internet where the pressured Person can just disappear completly

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  21. ^^ so true, and not only for scanlating work!! when people at my office are bitching that I take forever to do stuff,I just drop what I'mdoing for them, and start working on my projects. bitching never helps, bitches.

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  22. WTF! Some people (prob one lone troll) needs to realize Sonic and the team are all that stand between where we are now and the dark old days of stalking hox and project bite me for the odd quarterly release of a few chapters. Its a fact that no-one else capable is dedicated enough to do the job, so lets try our best not to make an unpaid task a thankless one too. Were only 6 volumes behind Japan ffs...

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  23. If they want to take a hiatus, let them take a hiatus. It's better in the long run for them to do other stuff until they hopefully rekindle their interest. Otherwise, it's just that they keep going until the irrevocably burn out and stop entirely.

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    1. For me letting them take a hiatus was never the issue it was more that sonic didn't say anything about being unmotivated and basically going on a hiatus (until the blog got a bunch of comments complaining about the release speed). They honestly have close no communication with the people that follow kaiji/akagi/pen-chan/etc. regarding releases.

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    2. I agree, and I wish FKMTKrazy would at least make a post about it, but instead we had to bitch until he brought it up on Twitter.

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  24. The current situation makes this deserve a Funny reaction, quite possibly with a grain of Interesting thrown in.

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    1. Maybe a bitterly ironic Awesome for the full tripple effect, now that I think about it.

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  25. Sonic, I know your love for Fukumoto is just as great, if not greater, than the rest of us. I know you won't let us down. Take a break. Take all the time you need. When you are ready, we'll be ready.

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  26. I wish I could stop checking this blog every 10 minutes, fuck.

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  27. SonicKrazy if you have no intention of scanlating/translating Kaiji I'll gladly do so on a weekly basis for the community if it's okay with you. I'm not trying to fuck around with people's feelings/hype when I comment as I am a man of my words. If it is okay, please comment back on this post.

    If you do comment, I'll gladly follow up on another comment with my email so if you can gladly provide raws for me I'll really appreciate it.

    -fellow anonymous.

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    1. I love you if this happens. Were so close to catching up to Japan.

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    2. Japan is already done with Kazuya-hen and has moved onto the next arc which is the One-Poker Hen

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    3. I don't know why you felt the need to clarify that considering no insinuation had been made to the contrary.

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    4. I have some raws myself if you don't care who they're from; I'll put my e-mail up so you can hit me up if you're interested. To specify as far as untranslated volumes from Kazuya-hen I have volumes 8 and 9+I THINK all of the chapters of poker-hen so far {can't specify volumes since I collected them all from young magazine pdfs but I have 45 chapters}. I'm not meaning to be disrespectful to sonic at all and I can see why you want his go ahead, but I'm just putting my offer out there since I'd love to help any way I can and I'm too much of a lazy bum to learn Japanese myself.

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    5. Oh this is the anon with the raws again; I also have volume 7

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    6. Yeah go ahead anon, I've just been coming back home exhausted every day so I don't really feel up to translating. I want to get back to the grind eventually, and I'd probably keep working if I had all the time I needed but until I get a rhythm going I'm gonna need some time off.

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    7. Alternatively you could become a translator for us? The rest of the group except me is totally motivated, I'm just the only translator which means me being inactive drags down the whole group

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    8. Is it happening?
      Also, hope you regain your motivation Sonickrazy.

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    9. Same anon as the first poster. I have gained raws through a friend of mine and will have vol. 7 + 8 done by the end of September and will be up Batoto more than likely.
      SonicKrazy if you ever feel motivated again i will leave it up to you again

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    10. Thanks a lot man. Good luck with the translation!

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    11. Is there any chance you can make twitter, blog or something to keep us updated? Sorry if this is asking for too much.

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    12. I agree it would be really nice to have updates on your progress

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    13. I feel like translator anon is fucking with us...
      Don't get your hopes up m8

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    14. Maybe its taking him a bit to get into translating because hes trying to work something out with tambur regarding cleans and typesetting?

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    15. Nah, I haven't heard a peep from him.

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    16. Save us Tambur.
      I need my fix.

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    17. Its just barely been a week since the anon even said he got raws calm down.

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    18. Hopefully he comes through.

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    19. anon is a troll, probably

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  28. If you need help typesetting it let me know. I can help you out with Kaiji. Since I've been doing the typesetting for a while I know the ins and outs of it. Me and the other cleaner jate also have 5 chapters cleaned already. Let me know if you want help. Tamburs@gmail.com

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    1. Has he contacted you at all yet? This month is almost over already.

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  29. I seriously recommend you guys join your forces as much as possible. It would be a shame if some chapters got unnecessarily cleaned twice. Helpful Translator Anon should become a dedicated translator for this group.

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  30. I read Kurosawa like 4 years ago when I was suicidal and going through the worst times of my life and the manga really changed me, it sparked such a motivation and fire in me that I eventually got out and eventually made something of my life. I became so addicted to Fukumoto that I couldn't wait for chapters to get translated so I actually learned Japanese by myself to follow Akagi and Kaiji. My Japanese is high intermediate at best though, so reading a chapter I need a dictionary and like an hour to understand 90% of the text. The biggest problem I have with Japanese is understanding the slang and chit-chat that you're not taught in books and courses, since I never lived in Japan, and it's hard to find a translation or explanation for them in English.

    If I can be of any help to you, I'd like to help, since I understand the people waiting for a chapter impatiently perfectly.

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    1. Wow man, if what you are saying is true about your life and the impact the manga had and even learning japanese just so you can read more Fukumoto than I am speachless. Thanks for sharing and good for you.

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    2. One more thing, why would Kurosawa had such a huge impact on your life? I read the manga and found it very grim and depressing. I don’t really remember that much, I guess there was some kind of moral to the story but nothing too uplifting whereas Kaiji can be dark at times but he always seems to win, even against the odds. Please tell me and I might consider rereading it cause maybe I have missed something.

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    3. Putting up a two-fold disclaimer here: I'm not the guy you're replying to and I haven't actually read Kurosawa in its entirety. But I know for a fact that it's a story about going up against the hardships of life even when you're unremarkable small-fry with no talents or assets. This is what Kaiji is partially about, too. The emphasis is not on winning at all. The final chapter of Kurosawa even states it in the most BLATANT way possible: society places too much value on winning alone, and the most admirable warriors are those who continue to struggle even with the tide constantly against them. I'm spelling it out for you because re-reading wouldn't help you. It boggles my mind that Fukumoto puts so much effort into writing profoundly human characters and hammering his points into our heads over and over, and yet there are people like you, who don't give enough of a fuck to pay attention and reflect on what they're reading for one goddamn second. If you did, then maybe it wouldn't surprise you to hear that OP is by far not the only person on the Internet who was so moved by the manga, and actually changed his life around. It surely is powerful stuff, and I might wanna read it properly sometime in the future. But it's wasted on someone like you, and so are most things, I would imagine.

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    4. The only thing I see here is a bitch who hasn't read Kurosawa yet. Quit talking like a know it all and read that shit.

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    5. All I see is a runt taking cheap shots at me while not proving me wrong or contributing to the discussion in any way. Do you do this everywhere on the Internet? Just fling shit whenever the opportunity arises?

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    6. This is to the know-it-all guy, I am the anon he we replaying to.

      Thank you very much for your post, it’s so funny how some people can get so butthurt over basically nothing. Reading your ridiculous post has made me laugh so hard I even read it twice, so yeah thanks for all the fun even though it obviously wasn’t your intention.

      As for the Kurosawa manga. I didn’t want to go into too many details in my last post but I haven’t read the entire manga as well, that’s the very reason I am considering “rereading”. I read the first three volumes, flipped some pages and read the ending so I feel like I have a gist of the story and what is it about, doesn’t mean I or everyone has to like it. Like I said, I find it just too depressing and yeah, winning isn’t really the theme of this manga which is another reason why I don’t like it. You see, I am fairly successful at life atm, don’t need to read that depressing shit and redefine my entire life so it’s quite obvious that I’m not really a guy who can relate. Kaiji is much more appealing and I know that compared to a guy like Akagi he is supposed to be an everyman but I would argue he hardly is.

      Anyway, I was just so happy for that Anon I was replaying too, as I would for everyone else who managed to change in a positive way. I am sorry I don’t bother to read every forum of the manga I read to know that it has completely changed their lives but I am happy for them as well. As for you, well you obviously have a sad life since only someone very negative could get worked up over what I wrote so I pity you.

      Probably not going to bother with another response but will have a laugh or two so bring it on!

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    7. You've only read the first three volumes? Well, that explains everything. Kurosawa turns into more than just some middle aged dude who's down on his luck as the story progresses. If you skipped to the end, then you should realize that he was a god damn tragic hero. It's fucking cathartic. But hey, this is coming from the guy who thinks that Kaiji is all about winning. Did you forget how Kaiji lost all his money and even his goddam fingers at the end of the first series? Did you forget how Endou took all of Kaiji's bog profits at the end of the second series? Did you forget that Kaiji is a worthless fucking bum at the beginning of the third series? The epitome of human trash? I'm having trouble understanding how you can dislike Kurosawa because you can't relate to him, but like Kaiji, who's just as reprehensible. Oh, that's right, it's because it's so god damn depressing! Well, here's an idea: if you don't like overly depressing stories, then don't read them! There's no need to force yourself to read something you're not interested in just because a lot of other people liked it. People may disagree with you on this, but that doesn't mean that you're wrong. We can just agree to disagree. Rather than rereading Kurosawa, consider reveling in your success instead. It's probably much more fulfilling than reading a comic book about some old loser dude.
      P.S. You can also consider sympathizing with an underdog protagonist. That's what I did when I read Kurosawa (and yes I read the whole thing, unlike that other guy).

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    8. I think sometimes its comforting just to know that someone understands the things a protag like kaiji or kurosawa go through well enough to make decent story out of them. The fact the story exists is enough to know you're not alone, which on a dark day can be worth its weight in gold.

      FKMT might be a ridiculously successful and rich mangaka now, but its obvious the guy went through before he hit it big with Akagi/Kaiji.

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    9. Hey Matthew,
      thanks for chiming in. It might come as a surprise to you but I very much agree with your post.

      Regarding Kaiji’s failures, oh believe me, I do remember them very well and that’s a part of his story that makes him much more applying as a character than say Akagi. I like the fact that not everything works for him, it makes him so much more real. Even if you enjoy a little success in life it doesn’t mean it came without any hardship or that you don’t get depressed/feel like shit from time to time. Life is a bitch and unless you were born into success you have to constantly push yourself every fucking day to actually make something of your life.

      I do sympathize both with Kurosawa and Kaiji on a level that they are both struggling to achieve something and that’s the very reason I really would like to get into reading Kurosawa. The big difference is Kurosawa’s story has no real turnaround whereas Kaiji had some tremendous success. I guess some people could argue that Kurosawa actually did prevail in the end and I simply don’t get the point. Well, for me that’s a matter of opinion just as some other people would probably argue that winning some high stakes gambling games is hardly a noteworthy achievement.

      Also, to anon above, I guess you are very right in what you say. The fact that you are not alone can be very comforting it’s just that if the entire story is grim as hell I don’t see it helping long term, at least not helping me.

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    10. Thanks for your replies, I'm the original Anon.

      The thing is, I was 20 years old, had no friends, never been intimate with a woman in my life, no money, I was studying but found no joy in it (electrical engineering) and I was literally so lost in life, I didn't even know how to or what to do. Everything seemed impossible to me, I just wanted to die. I felt like the biggest failure in human history.

      Then I read Kurosawa and I identified with him so much that I really enjoyed the manga even from the first chapters and volumes which people find awkward but I can perfectly associate with. There were a few thoughts and analogies in Kurosawa that really made me rethink my life, mainly
      1. The clock analogy he made with life, where he made the comparison of life and a day, saying being 40 years old is like 18 o' clock, too late to make anything out of the day and you're tired and just looking forward to sleep anyway. It made me realize that I'm 20 and still have time in my life to fix shit.
      2. The very end which made me cry like a bitch. It made me realize that winning and achieving are relative. All human beings are given different initial conditions when they are born. How can you expect someone like Kurosawa to succeed in life with the life he is given, especially in this cruel world where everything is measured by win-lose, success or failure. The things you win aren't what's important, the fight, the struggle you give to this world is what matters, making everything out of the things you were given. Because the fight is the same for everyone, doesn't matter if you're a hopeless loser scoring a woman or a child prodigy inventing things or just surviving day by day in this world that abandoned you. Facing fear and working hard feels the same to everyone, and that feeling of fighting is the only true feeling in this world, everything else is a distraction, a break, like Akagi beautifully explained at the end of Ten.

      Once I read Kurosawa I didn't give a shit about anyone or anything anymore, I just wanted to do stuff and improve myself and fight until my last breath. The most beautiful thing that I realized by trying and failing and fighting is that you learn things. Every time I failed, I learned something, and after attempt 36 or whatever I succeeded, and God was it sweet. I'm addicted to the feeling of accomplishing and going beyond the things I thought are impossible to me, because I have done SO many things I would have considered literally impossible for me when I was 20 years old.

      And that's how I'm practically still today, and I can't believe what a change I made, and all the people from my past don't even recognize me anymore nor do I care about them.

      Funny enough, I saw this same message from Fukumoto all through art, songs, movies, books, times and times again, but I guess I couldn't see them because I couldn't relate to them, but being a mega nerd maybe I could only relate to manga characters.

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    11. Well, as long as we can get along despite our differences, that's probably good enough. If there's anything that Fukumoto fans can learn, it's not getting overly angry whenever someone doesn't like his work. Unless someone's complaining about the art style, and then I don't have any sympathy, haha.
      And to the Anon up earlier that said: "FKMT might be a ridiculously successful and rich mangaka now, but its obvious the guy went through before he hit it big with Akagi/Kaiji." You're completely right. Did you know that he was making manga for over 10 years before finding any kind of success? It's really crazy to think about what happened.

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  31. Sure would be great is FKMT did Shin Kurosawa... Just sayin...

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  32. Really hope the group is doing alright! I miss the regular updates but it's understandable if you guys need a break!

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  33. the group is dead, sonickcrazy the translator is tired of all this.

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    1. I may have to agree. They have never gone this long without a release before. I fear the group may announce it's disbanding soon.

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  34. "They have never gone this long without a release before"
    They did last year.

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